In the two latest dropped frames it's been talked about twitch adds and ad blockers, and in the recent episode they talked about twitch's new add delivery system.
The consensus seems to be that nobody likes adds but they are necessary and, hey you've got Twitch prime.
Prime is indeed an amazing deal if you already have a twitch subscription or were a Turbo subscriber, if you already had turbo you essentially get an Amazon Prime subscription and a Twitch sub by paying 2$ more.
Back to ads and their blockers, i support and understand twitch's decision to create a delivery system that circumvents add blockers. Now i don't like adds and i do use ad block, and to some extent i do feel guilty for using it. Hosting anything on the internet costs money (live stream's i would guess are about as expensive as it gets) and both twitch staff and creators deserve to get payed. That is why i subscribe to several streamers and used to pay for Turbo.
Used to, Turbo has never been an amazing deal but i happily paid it to support the streamers i did not subscribe too, and Twitch. But with the introduction of Twitch Prime i immediately cancelled my Turbo subscription, swearing never to buy it in it's current form ever again.
Twitch Prime marked the death of Turbo, turning it into a 8.99$ chat badge for Prime users. As i mentioned at the start, prime is an amazing deal if you were a Turbo sub. It would be downright silly to not get Prime if you wanted a legit form of add free twitch.
Prime is indeed a very good answer to people who complain about adds on twitch, seeing ass twitch is not the worst when it comes to adds(most of the time). Though many streamers probably should start to think more about add timings with the new system.
To summarize, the new add system is not the end of twitch, there is a fair way to pay for no adds and streamers will adapt the add frequency.
So, why the rant? I cant get Prime... I'm not the only one either, by pulling numbers out off my ass I estimate that 1/3 of Twitch users are in the same boat as me. We cant get Prime because it is not available in our countries, seeing as Prime is tied to Amazon Prime. (why this is terrible is for another rant)
Why is this a problem? We still got Turbo to pay for an add less Twitch.
Because Turbo is the opposite of Prime, it is a terrible deal.
The only value off Turbo is having no adds while supporting streamers. Yes, you do get some emotes and a badge but i think it's safe to say that the only reason someone would buy turbo is for the removal off adds.
To make it clear why Turbo is terrible you have to look at Twitch Prime, I'm only going to care about the direct benefits on Twitch, as Twitch has no say over Amazon Prime.
Twitch Prime is FREE, seeing as you can only get it trough Amazon Prime which will cost you 10.99$ a month (less if you are a student). So lets use 10.99$ as the price for Twitch Prime.
For that 10.99$ you get everything included in Turbo, except the turbo chat badge, but you do get a Prime badge in addition you get 1 free sub to any twitch partner of your liking per month.
It is the free sub which makes Twitch Prime amazing even if you never use Amazon Prime, as a sub is 4.99$.
This means that if you already were subbed on Twitch you essentially pay 6$ for "Turbo" if you decide to get Prime, or vice versa. Contrast this to 8.99$ for Turbo and 4.99$ for a subscription if Prime is not available, making it 2.99$ more expensive too get Twitch add free + a subscription.
That is why i don't feel it is to entitled to be mad about twitch's new add delivery system, remembering that twitch also takes a hefty cut from your subscriptions (and bits).
To get twitch add free I have to pay twitch 8.99$ on top of the 2.49$ they take from my subscription to a streamer (I am not sure about the split, but i believe it is 50/50 for most).
As of today i am subscribed to 3 streamers, meaning i already pay twitch 7.99$ a month, for a total of 14.99$ spent on twitch every month. If i have to buy turbo to get Twitch add free i would drop 2 of my subscriptions leaving me with 13.99$ spent on twitch every month, with 11.49$ going to twitch and 2.49% too a streamer.
In my opinion this is a giant fuck you too Twitch users that cant get Twitch prime, and potentially devastating too channels with an audience consisting mostly of such users (f.ex channels catering to Scandinavian users). This would also effect most streamers, but to a lesser extent.
Even if the number taken from my ass are completely unreliable and the number of users unable to get Prime is as low as 1/5 or even 1/10. Making 10-20% of users having to chose between add free twitch or more subscriptions could lead to a significant drop of total subscriptions.
Twitch could and should do something about this. I would suggest Giving Turbo users a Free subscription to any channel as well. Even if they were to raise the price to 9.99$ or even 10.99$ it would still be a better deal than the current form of turbo. They could even sell Turbo for 6.99$ (without the free subscription) and creating a second tier for 10.99$ giving you Turbo and a "free" Subscription. That second Tier could even be called something like Twitch Prime. This would give everyone a chance to get Twitch add free for a reasonable price while arguably making Amazon Prime seem like a better deal, as it would give a free Twitch Prime + all the extra goodies.
That turned out a lot longer than i had intended and if your still reading this i must apologize for my poor writing and rambling.
TLDR: Adds are bad, Addblock is worse and Turbo is the worst. Lower the price of turbo or/and raise the price and give it a "free" subscription.