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Why did the subreddit close and get banned?

Hello it’s me TwitchSurgeon, this is the only part of the guidelines and FAQ that have been edited.
Let’s start with the easy one first. The reason the subreddit got banned was due to me not reading the rules. That is the main issue at hand and there’s no excuse for that. It then got reported by an unnamed person but we were not informed about the issue (if we were we would have resolved it). That’s why it got banned.

The reason why it was closed is a bit more complicated. The subreddit had become to hard to handle and with no proper reddiquette taken into account nor any guidelines set people took it for granted that they could say whatever they wanted. In a sense that’s fine but at the same time they did you in a non-constructive way. That created rifts among the cast (yes the subreddit led to cast member actually not wanting to engage anymore). The subreddit was badly run and that’s the truth. It wasn’t as simple as instating rules, it had become something a lot bigger than that and every time a rule was put into place it was called out as “echo chamber”, “unfair”, “not free speech”, “policing opinions” and so on. There were a lot of good things as well and some great people that did great things and wonderful comments. However when nothing can be done about the bad parts the good parts gets shadowed. It’s a sad reality but a reality nonetheless.

The solution had been on going for more than 2 years. There had even been attempts in the past to move away from Reddit. However it was shut down due to structure in vBulletin was atrocious and not conducive to discussion and good discussion is what we want to have.

We asked the community about the move but due to how people viewed our badly run subreddit people thought it was a vote. It never was a vote and that was clear. This was 6 months before the actual move. For 6 months there were no one that approached me (I created the posts where it was talked about) about how the subreddit could be run. The truth is that I wanted to keep it open or hand it over to someone else. That was my idea from the start. We wanted to build a place where we could build more features that would in the end benefit the audience as well as the community. We’re already working on how to tie the community directly into the RollPlay shows. These things would not have been possible in the same way on Reddit due to it not being on our own server. People did say that it was due to censorship (and if they think censorship is them allowed to criticize others then that’s not really an envoirment that we want) but forget that deleting and banning is possible on a subreddit as well, but as mention the subreddit was ran badly so it cultivated something we couldn’t stop and that’s on us and so is the solution to the problem.

Now we get to the tricky part about reddit, or at least how I use it, I didn’t look down deep into the comments nor did I check far down into a tree structure since those end up being echo chambers for one or two individuals. What I could see were the most upvoted comments and those are the ones I based the closing of the subreddit on. Not due them being rough or angry. But due to what people kept on saying in them. The most commonly used phrase were “don’t do it, it will split the community” and so I agreed that keeping two places open would split the community. I know that their intention was to show that we should only keep reddit only (at this point the subreddit was not closed and it not been said that it would be closed) but as mentioned above it wasn’t a vote to move away from Reddit. In a sense the most vocal (due to upvotes, how Reddit works) dug the grave too deep for themselves.

To be clear there were one person that came forward in saying that they wanted to take over the subreddit, however they chose to include that they wanted it to be a place where they freely could criticize people involved with RollPlay. Of course I’m not going to look at that and say sure. This was the only highly voted suggestion that I saw. Does that mean that it was the only suggestion? Probably not. Does it change the fact that it was the only, upvoted, suggestion that I saw? No.

There you have it the reasons for the closing of the subreddit and the reasons why it got banned.